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Ai doesn't understand Trap!

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This ai thinks all trap beats need whoop woo and scratching they trained it off one 80 beats only i guess. I’m about to just drop my memberships and move on. all the music it makes it lame i guess they don’t understand how to train it to make real music. I have made 4000+

instrumentals and every one is destroyed with the woop woop sounds, scratching or vocal chops BS! all metal songs sound the very same pick nu-metal or

technical death metal it will sound the same! it just doesn’t understand music at all. it’s like they trained it for trap and metal off one song each and called it good. lol it’s such a joke!

Posted by Jeff micfedsol ·
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  • Ellie changed status to Completed
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    May 28

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    Hey Jeff! Thanks for the detailed feedback, and I get the frustration after 4000+ instrumentals. I took a closer look at your recent trap generations, and I think I can point you at the root cause.

    In Instrumental mode, the prompt is the only signal the AI has to work with. Everything else, including the genre tags you see on the finished song, is inferred by the AI based on what it generated. So when the output keeps coming back with vocal chops and scratching, that's the AI's interpretation of a short prompt where it had room to fill in gaps.

    Your current prompts are along the lines of "fast, aggressive, heavy beat with hard-hitting distorted 808s." That's a solid starting point, but it leaves a lot open: no sub-style, no specific instruments beyond 808s, no exclusions, no tempo. The AI fills that space with the most common associations for "trap beat," which often includes the elements you don't want.

    Output quality leans heavily on prompt specificity, so I'd love to share a guide we put together on writing strong prompts: 

    https://songer.co/blog/posts/how-to-prompt-like-a-pro-for-music-generation

    A few changes that should clean this up:

    1. Name a trap sub-style. Modern dark trap, phonk, drill, and rage trap sound very different from each other, so picking one anchors the output.

    2. List the instruments you want by name: distorted 808 sub-bass, fast hi-hat rolls, snare claps, dark minor key melody.

    3. Add explicit exclusions: "no DJ scratches, no vocal chops, no vocal samples, no turntable effects."

    4. Specify "instrumental" and a tempo. Modern trap usually sits at 130 to 150 BPM with a half-time feel.

    5. Keep the mood words, but trim them to two or three. "Aggressive, dark, menacing" is more focused than five stacked descriptors.

    Example prompt to test: "Hard modern dark trap instrumental, 140 BPM half-time feel, distorted 808 sub-bass, rapid hi-hat rolls, snare claps on beat 3, dark minor key bell melody, menacing and raw, no DJ scratches, no vocal chops, no vocal samples, no turntable effects"

    An extra tip if you want even tighter control: you can also build instrumentals using the Custom Lyrics flow, just wrap the entire prompt in [square brackets] so the AI reads it as a production direction instead of lyrics to sing. That gives you a longer, more detailed prompt window to work with, plus access to manual genre selection. For trap specifically, I'd suggest picking "trap" on its own, or pairing it with "bass" or "dark" if you want to push the mood. I'd skip "electronic" and "hip-hop" since those are the tags most likely to pull in the vocal chops and scratching you're trying to avoid.

    The same approach fixes the metal issue. Nu-metal and technical death metal sound nothing alike, but a short prompt like "heavy metal" gives the AI no way to tell them apart. Naming the sub-style and listing the instruments you want pulls them in completely different directions.

    Give the trap example a run. 🥁